HP Envy x360: 13-inch with Ryzen, 15-inch with Ryzen or Core 8th Gen

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• nathanddrews - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link

  For starters, the Xbone X GPU is significantly more powerful than either the MX150 or the Vega IGP while having a CPU that is vastly LESS powerful than either Ryzen or 8th Gen Intel CPU. In fact, the CPU is pretty restricting on the system as a whole, holding back frame rates in many games, despite the custom programming and overclock. I really like my Xbone X, but I guess I don't see how it is at all relevant to the topic or my original post?

• Bateluer - Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - link

  Editor over at Liliputing is stating the AMD model is dual channel.

• darkich - Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - link

  Well the Vega 10 should be far better than the MX150 actually. No comparison at all. So the Nvidia option doesn't make sense to me.

• SquarePeg - Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - link

  The Nvidia MX150 alone has a TDP of 25 watts. Even the down clocked MX150 has a TDP of 10 watts. I want to see the 25 watt TDP up version of the AMD 2700U versus the 15 watt Intel 8550U + 10 watt MX150. This would be a much more interesting comparison as both solutions would be given an equivalent (25 watt) thermal budget in in the same chassis.

• neblogai - Thursday, May 17, 2018 - link

  That is not a fair comparisson: either both should be tested on iGPU, or both get dGPU+dMemory. Or, if you want AMD system to be cheaper- then it's APU should at least be given the same TDP/cooling (25 to 40W) that Intel+MX150 gets. As seen on desktop- Vega11 is about equal to GT1030, so faster than MX150. However, AMD's desktop iGPU gets to work at proper 1250MHz core and with faster memory, not ~750MHz core and ~DDR42133, which mobile U-series AMD iGPUs average with their low TDP.

• stuffwhy - Monday, May 14, 2018 - link

  Part on/part off topic - why are there, at least as far as I've seen, a steady stream of Ryzen based laptops coming out with only single channel RAM? It's as if it's on purpose or something. This post reminds me of that because it appears that this model will have only 8 GB, probably soldered on.

• HStewart - Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - link

  My only guess is that it limited in architecture to single channel. It usually an option but at factory in notebooks for more ram now a days. As for soldered on, today every one wants the notebook thinner and lighter and that is one trade off - also less moveable parts means less likely some one will mess things up.

• Fnnoobee - Monday, July 30, 2018 - link

  As far as I'm aware, both 13" and 15" configurations of the HP Envy x360 Ryzen models have dual channel 2400MHz RAM. The only other manufacturer that I am aware of that uses dual-channel 2400MHz RAM is the Dell Inspiron in both their 13 and 15 7000 models. Avoid at all costs the deceptively tempting Lenovo Ideapad 720S Ryzen model. While thin and light and very affordable, the RAM is single-channel clocked at 2133MHz and soldered to the board! So even if you wanted to attempt to upgrade to fix any memory bottleneck issues caused with a system memory dependent iGPU, it's not possible.

• edgineer - Monday, May 14, 2018 - link

  So, both 13" and 15" have "1 x USB Type-C 3.0" which if correct means this port supports data transfer at USB 3.1 gen 1 5Gb/s, but not gen 2 10Gb/s.
  
  But the 13" "also has the ability to connect two external 4K displays" which must happen over the only available video port, the type-C port. So the type-C port must also support displayport alternate mode.
  
  But this port also has a lightning/spark/thunderbolt symbol printed next to it on the case- indicating some special charging capability? Does it support USB power delivery? Probably not?

• Dragonstongue - Monday, May 14, 2018 - link

  battery size is blekk lol.
  specs are hit and miss IMO especially for the pricing and the screen size presented, likely is a real limit for any potential performance one can have or should be getting.
  
  like a gpu with WAY more memory than it can ever effectively use now these "laptop" companies seem to be wanting to make as thin, light, reduce battery, cripple it with minimum amount of ram they possibly can, dinky little screen so the cpu-gpu are artificially hampered etc etc.
  
  I can understand they want to keep at a certain price range, but quality of product delivered and specs to back up the component selection used should be paramount to anything else, 3 or 4cell battery bloody hell LMFAO.