10nm Cannon Lake NUC at Major US Retailers

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• DigitalFreak - Monday, December 3, 2018 - link

  So they got a dual-core CPU with no (or non-functional) IGP working on 10nm. Not something to be proud of.

• notb - Monday, December 3, 2018 - link

  Thing is though: they have a product made using next gen node (and they were the first to deliver in consumer market). That's all that matters.
  Apple has one as well, so does Samsung (not offered yet but already manufactured).
  
  Sure, these are all low voltage, tiny chips. You can't make a 100W desktop part using that tech. But it shows that 7/10nm is already here. Now it's just a matter of refining this tech to make larger chips possible.

• Eliadbu - Monday, December 3, 2018 - link

  they have been able to make working chips for long time, the thing is just being able to make working chips is not enough in the semi conductors market you need make it profitable and this requires 2 things: volume and yields, I'm sure they got the volume but the yields are the issue. if you did not get to high enough yields\ defects threshold, you can't mass produce and keep the business profitable meaning in a free market you will just go out of business quickly. all the players know it well this is why Samsung delayed their production of 7nm node and GlobalFoundries just canceled their 7nm node development completely they just knew their node won't be profitable enough (or at all) to justify such a huge spending. as it looks like only TSMC are on tracks with their 7nm node(s) which should not be surprising as they are the largest pure-play semiconductor foundry in the world and by big margins, as the size the decrease and we face more and more issues manufacturing in small feature sizes less and less can keep up.

• danjw - Monday, December 3, 2018 - link

  TSMC is not just on track, but delivering products. Apple's A12 SOCs in the current generation iPhones and now iPads. Those are shipping products.

• Santoval - Monday, December 3, 2018 - link

  No, that's not "all that matters". Only high volume manufacturing matters in this industry. And I mean HVM of fully functioning parts, which also do not have a 700 MHz lower turbo clock than the generation of CPUs they supposedly replace, despite no TDP stress from their iGPU. This CPU is literally a beta CPU, which Intel released on a highly problematic node (they do not even intend to fix their original 10nm node, they will rather apply all the fixes to their second gen 10nm+ node, for the HVM release of Ice Lake) just to report a nominal 2018 release of 10nm CPUs to their shareholders and thus avoid a stock sell-off. That's all there is to it.

• edzieba - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link

  Sure, and GF abandoned 7nm entirely, TSMC backed off of 7nm EUV for SAQP, Samsung dumped their original 7nm plans (7nm LPE) for a future-EUV-maybe 7nm LPP, etc. Everyone is having trouble getting good 7nm yields, everyone is using 'stopgap' processes while they try and get their 'real' processes up to yield.

• Samus - Tuesday, December 4, 2018 - link

  And it's still 15w and it's still in line with the performance of a dual-core 14nm CPU. So where is the benefit!?

• Dug - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link

  It's new, so it must be betters!

• nico_mach - Monday, December 3, 2018 - link

  These default cases are looking really tired. They should stick with the skull cases or find a way to spruce these up. I don't mean alien/dragon LED graphics. More like Amazon's tv box glowing bar of destiny thing, for example. Or even the ancient mac mini design, which is so much cleaner it has aged really well. Intel should have the resources, and clearly this isn't an experiment.

• MattMe - Monday, December 3, 2018 - link

  I don't think I could disagree more.
  These aren't aimed at flashy gaming youth. They're primarily aimed at business and HTPC uses, neither of which want any flashing lights on their box.
  Keep it subtle, keep it small.