The AMD Next Horizon Gaming Keynote Live Blog (Starts at 3pm PT/22:00 UTC)
by Ryan Smith on June 10, 2019 2:00 PM EST
05:54PM EDT - We're here in sunny (and hot) Los Angeles, California for E3, and more specifically, AMD's next big product-focused keynote. Dubbed "Next Horizon Gaming"
05:55PM EDT - AMD's crew, including CEO Dr. Lisa Su, will be taking the stage to present information on upcoming gaming-related products
05:57PM EDT - It's a fair bet that we'll be seeing both GPU news and CPU news from this keynote, plenty of gaming demos, and as is usually the case for AMD, maybe a surprise or two
05:59PM EDT - The show is set to start at 3pm local time, though I suspect it will get a late start
05:59PM EDT - Joining me today is the jetlagged Dr. Ian Cutress, who only recently wrapped up Computex
06:00PM EDT - Oh, and we're starting on time!
06:00PM EDT - AMD is rolling a video
06:00PM EDT - And the AMD employees are forming a mosh pit
06:01PM EDT - Now on stage: Dr. Lisa Su
06:01PM EDT - Who is wearing a black leather jacket
06:02PM EDT - "We have an incredible, incredible show for you today"
06:02PM EDT - "What's next?"
06:03PM EDT - (It will likely involve processors)
06:04PM EDT - To deliver incredible gaming experiences you need breakthrough hardware and breakthrough games
06:04PM EDT - Sometimes the hardware gets ahead, and sometimes the software gets ahead
06:04PM EDT - AMD wants to be everywhere. PCs, consoles, mobile, etc
06:05PM EDT - "We're all about pushing the envelope"
06:05PM EDT - We're seeing the results of some bets AMD made 3 to 5 years ago
06:06PM EDT - e.g. Zen 2 and RDNA
06:06PM EDT - AMD is very happy about their console and Google partnerships
06:07PM EDT - Lisa is now recapping yesterday's Project Scarlett Xbox announcement
06:08PM EDT - Introducing at E3 2019: AMD Ryzen 3000 series and the Radeon RX 5700 series
06:09PM EDT - Starting today off with Ryzen
06:09PM EDT - Rolling a video
06:10PM EDT - Lisa says she's happy to see the excitement about Ryzen 3000
06:11PM EDT - Recapping AMD's Computex announcements
06:11PM EDT - 15% IPC, 2x cache size, 2x FP perf (via AVX-2)
06:12PM EDT - AMD now considers themselves a market leader for consumer CPUs
06:12PM EDT - And now showing off some benchmark data to prove that claim
06:12PM EDT - (AMD's favorite benchmark: Cinebench 20)
06:13PM EDT - Also comparing the 3900X to Intel's 9900K in games at CPU-limited settings
06:14PM EDT - Now it's time for a demo with AMD's Robert Hallock
06:15PM EDT - Running The Division 2
06:15PM EDT - Now they're going to throw in some video encoding
06:16PM EDT - (Casually omitted: using the dedicated video encoder in AMD's video cards)
06:17PM EDT - Now 3800X vs. 9700K
06:17PM EDT - So that's Ryzen 7
06:17PM EDT - Now on to the Ryzen 5 processors
06:18PM EDT - 3600X vs. 9600K
06:18PM EDT - Robert is back, demoing Counter-Strike: Go
06:19PM EDT - Running at CPU-limited settings
06:19PM EDT - So framerates approaching 300fps
06:20PM EDT - "Leadership at every price point"
06:20PM EDT - Reminding everyone that all of this goes on sale on July 7th
06:20PM EDT - Switching gears to GPUs with Navi, AMD's next-gen GPU
06:21PM EDT - The Radeon RX 5700 series
06:21PM EDT - Designed from the ground up for gaming
06:22PM EDT - Introducing AMD's RDNA architecture. The successor to the GCN family of architectures
06:22PM EDT - Focused on 7nm, higher clocks, lower power, and PCIe 4.0
06:22PM EDT - "Do you guyys love Vega"
06:23PM EDT - For the future of gaming, AMD wants a flexible and scalable architecture
06:23PM EDT - 25% in perf-per-clock (per CU) and 50% perf-per-watt. All versus Vega
06:23PM EDT - Now rolling another video
06:24PM EDT - Our first card: the Radeon RX 5700 XT
06:24PM EDT - (Yes, those insufferable suffixes are back)
06:24PM EDT - It's a blower
06:25PM EDT - The 5700 XT delivers performance leadership in its class
06:25PM EDT - Now on stage: AMD's Scott Herkelman
06:26PM EDT - Specs: 40 CUs, 8GB GDDR6, Boost Clock of 1905Mhz, Game Clock of 1755MHz. Total perf of 9.75 TFLOPs
06:26PM EDT - First gaming GPU to support PCIe 4.0
06:26PM EDT - Now talking about the design of the card
06:26PM EDT - Aluminium shroud, power is 1x8pin + 1x6pin
06:26PM EDT - Vapor chamber between the heatsink and GPU
06:26PM EDT - 7 phase power
06:27PM EDT - Rolling a demo of World War Z
06:27PM EDT - GeForce RTX 2070 vs. RX 5700 XT
06:28PM EDT - More perf benchmark data. "Best versus best", each card using its best API
06:28PM EDT - The 5700 XT gets a smaller sibling: 5700 (vanilla)
06:28PM EDT - 36 CUs, 8GB VRAM, 1725Mhz boost clock, 1625 game clock
06:29PM EDT - Comparing this to RTX 2060
06:29PM EDT - AMD has itself winning several benchmarks here
06:30PM EDT - Now talking a bit more about the architecture
06:30PM EDT - Navi GPU family features
06:30PM EDT - Navi is the first RDNA architecture GPU
06:31PM EDT - DisplayPort 1.4 with Display Stream Compression
06:31PM EDT - New feature: FidelityFX
06:32PM EDT - A collection of AMD graphics effects libraries. Hosted on their open source GPUOpen website
06:33PM EDT - AMD has a contrast-enhancing post-processing filter
06:33PM EDT - Their answer to NVIDIA's DLSS
06:33PM EDT - "Virtually no performance hit"
06:34PM EDT - AMD Radeon Image Sharpening
06:34PM EDT - This is a very similar feature built into AMD's driver
06:35PM EDT - Quick slide showing minimal performance hit
06:35PM EDT - So a very lightweight post-processing shader
06:35PM EDT - Radeon Anti-Lag
06:36PM EDT - A new feature to reduce rendering input lag
06:36PM EDT - Back on stage: Robert Hallock
06:37PM EDT - Discussing the background of motion-to-photon latency
06:37PM EDT - Live demo time. RTX 2070 vs. 5700 XT
06:37PM EDT - Now with Radeon Anti-lag enabled, input lag drops by about 15ms
06:37PM EDT - About 1 frame of latency
06:38PM EDT - (This sounds like a Scott Wasson project)
06:38PM EDT - Showing benchmarks measuring latency in a number of games
06:38PM EDT - How much will it cost?
06:39PM EDT - RX 5700 XT: $449
06:39PM EDT - RX 5700: $379
06:39PM EDT - AMD ain't offering no discounts this year
06:39PM EDT - Launching July 7th
06:40PM EDT - AMD game "bundle", a 3 month trial subscription for Xbox Game Pass (retail value: $30)
06:41PM EDT - Now on stage: Geoff Keighley
06:42PM EDT - (So everything on July 7th then. RIP us)
06:42PM EDT - Now it's going to be partner game demo time
06:43PM EDT - Gears of War 5
06:46PM EDT - (Surprisingly, AMD didn't talk about video card TDP there)
06:46PM EDT - Demo footage rendered all in real time on AMD hardwre
06:47PM EDT - Discussing how they don't have to do much dev work on the PC version
06:48PM EDT - Uncapped framerate on the PC
06:49PM EDT - Up next: Borderlands 3
06:52PM EDT - HDR support
06:54PM EDT - Launching September 13th
06:54PM EDT - Devs have signed an agreement with AMD for AMD to supply them with equipment
06:55PM EDT - Rolling more footage
06:57PM EDT - Now on to the Unity game engine
06:57PM EDT - Which is used in a large number of games
06:58PM EDT - Why do devs work with Unity?
06:58PM EDT - Because not everyone wants to make their own engine. It's a lot of work
06:59PM EDT - Discussing their HD Render Pipeline. Physically accurate rendering
07:01PM EDT - Running a demo called The Heretic
07:02PM EDT - Discussing all of the visual features involved
07:03PM EDT - Optimized for current and next-gen GPUs
07:03PM EDT - Also incorporating AMD's FidelityFX contrast enhancement
07:04PM EDT - CAS = Contrast Adaptive Sharpening
07:04PM EDT - Using CAS to render at sub-native resolutions
07:05PM EDT - HDRP coming in Unity 2019.3 in Fall 2019
07:06PM EDT - Up next: Ubisoft and Ghost Recon Breakpoint
07:06PM EDT - Yves Guillemot is here as well
07:08PM EDT - Showing an exclusive first look at Breakpoint
07:09PM EDT - Volumetric fog, screenspace reflection. Using async compute
07:10PM EDT - Back on stage: Lisa Su
07:12PM EDT - And Geoff has left the stage
07:13PM EDT - And now for the surprise!
07:13PM EDT - "I have one more GPU for you today"
07:13PM EDT - 50th anniversary edition 5700 XT
07:14PM EDT - Higher clocked 5700 XT
07:14PM EDT - 1830MHz game clock, boost clock of 1980MHz
07:14PM EDT - Excluslvely on AMD.com for $499
07:15PM EDT - So AMD is getting into the factory overclocked video card game. This is the the return of the Vega 64 Liquid Cooled, I suppose
07:15PM EDT - There's a CPU surprise as well
07:15PM EDT - 16 core gaming processor. The Ryzen 3950X
07:16PM EDT - 4.7Ghz boost, 3.5Ghz base
07:16PM EDT - 105W TDP
07:16PM EDT - Coming this September for $749
07:17PM EDT - A quick video with some overclocking results
07:18PM EDT - All of this launches July 7th
07:18PM EDT - And that's a wrap
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Umer - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link
Sorry but I chuckled at your comment box being bogged down, heh.I only notice the issues on AT's website when traveling abroad, back home in third-world countries, the ads don't even show up at all. I have AT's website whitelisted, but I feel your pain!
HTMLSpinnr - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link
Other sites are posting rumors of a 16 core/32 thread Ryzex 3 9xxx series. Let's hope it's true!jeremyshaw - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link
Same, I'm hoping it's binned well enough to allow full operation in a low profile SFF case (specifically, DAN A4 SFX) with a Noctua L9a HSF :D Empirically, that can handle ~100W of actual heat (peaking into the high 80s).JoeyJoJo123 - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link
Please don't, especially if the point of the system is for PC gaming. Very few game applications will use 16-cores/32-threads, and you get to a point to where excess cores generating heat directly impedes the few cores in use that would otherwise turbo up to higher clocks.If you're instead trying to opt for a compact system which DOES utilize those CPU cores, for example, for mobile video editing, just don't go with a DAN A4-SFX, because the fact of the matter is that the DAN A4-SFX has really poor options for CPU cooling due to the limited height clearance. There are other mini-ITX options which have options for a 120mm or 240mm AIO which will let you better leverage turbo speeds without letting the CPU suffer during extended renders. NCase M1, Silverstone ML07, Dr. Zaber Sentry 2.0, etc.
Would it work? I... Guess...? But what's the point of getting a CPU that you'd likely have to undervolt just to run with mixed thermal results under an anemic cooler?
jeremyshaw - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link
I’m not going any larger than a Dan A4 SFX and I’m not going with watercooling again, not even AiO loops. I used to assemble custom loops for my PCs (including ITX shoeboxes), but no more.My setup is currently fine with a light overclock (enough to draw a consistent ~100W under load), at no more than high 80s in terms of temperatures.
Thermal Power dissipated is thermal power dissipated. If AMD’s potential 16 core can do better around this thermal envelope, then I will move over. If it cannot, then I’ll have to think awhile on whether or not 8C/12C options are worth upgrading to, from my 4.5GHz (all core) 4C/8T setup. Some light gaming, 3D rendering (mostly for CAD purposes nowadays), and video editing.
JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link
>Posts logic about why something is dumb and offers reasonable similar alternatives.>Response is always 5 or so asinine reasons why they absolutely CANNOT fathom any other more sensible alternative and why their patented 5-star design with the cart-device infront of the horse-device is the only way to accomplish their task.
Something something idiot and their money are soon parted. Do what you please. Don't be surprised when a 92mm fan has to spin at full bore audibly during CAD exports/video renders because you insist on using a case and cooler that are inadequate for a monster CPU. Noctua's own guidance doesn't recommend it for anything over 65W TDP (ex: Ryzen 2600 at stock speeds, but this absolute unit thinks a 3950x with higher clocks and over double the cores/threads is a good(tm) idea). And everyone knows the 105 TDP figure given is lowballing how much watts the 3950x will put out.
Qasar - Saturday, June 15, 2019 - link
it'll still probably be well under how many watts intels cpus uses....GreenReaper - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link
Probably. But it'll cost. Most will get better value from putting that money into RAM or video hardware.Drumsticks - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link
It's sad that I'm ad blocking Anandtech now. The ads used to be reasonably relevant and certainly unintrusive. It absolutely sucks to have Anandtech showing me ads for "Do you have royal blood? Your last name may tell you!" and autoplaying video ads from best buy.Loading this page on mobile chrome, I count: 13 distinct ads, only one of which is even arguably remotely tech related (an autoplaying video ad from best buy), and 2 of which have some kind of video or animation.
Give me an option to pay for a subscription like Arstechnica does! I would love to stop bringing your website up in Firefox Focus :(
Drumsticks - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link
Meant to be a reply to old_fogie_late_bloomer but ah well. Hopefully it's still seen and considered!