Samsung Galaxy S8 Showdown: Exynos 8895 vs. Snapdragon 835, Performance & Battery Life Tested
by Matt Humrick on July 28, 2017 8:00 AM EST- Posted in
- Smartphones
- Samsung
- Galaxy
- Mobile
- SoCs
- Snapdragon 835
- Exynos 8895
- Galaxy S8
CPU Performance
Before we evaluate the Galaxy S8’s system-level performance and battery life, we’ll run some lower-level tests to examine CPU integer and floating-point IPC and memory system throughput and latency. The first test will be SPECint2000, the integer component of the SPEC CPU2000 benchmark developed by the Standard Performance Evaluation Corporation. This collection of single-threaded workloads allows us to compare IPC for competing CPU microarchitectures. The scores below are not officially validated numbers, which requires the test to be supervised by SPEC, but we’ve done our best to choose appropriate compiler flags and to get the tests to pass internal validation.
SPECint2000 - Estimated Scores ARMv8 / AArch64 |
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Exynos 8895 (Galaxy S8) |
Snapdragon 835 (Galaxy S8) |
Snapdragon 821 (LeEco Le Pro3) |
Kirin 960 (Mate 9) |
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164.zip | 1120 | 1207 | 1273 | 1217 |
175.vpr | 3889 | 3889 | 1687 | 4118 |
176.gcc | 2000 | 1930 | 1746 | 2157 |
181.mcf | 1268 | 1146 | 1200 | 1118 |
186.crafty | 2083 | 2222 | 1613 | 2222 |
197.parser | 1125 | 1364 | 1059 | 1395 |
252.eon | 3333 | 3333 | 3714 | 3421 |
253.perlmk | 1698 | 1714 | 1513 | 1748 |
254.gap | - | 1864 | 1594 | 1930 |
255.vortex | 2235 | 1900 | 1712 | 2111 |
256.bzip2 | 1351 | 1376 | 1172 | 1402 |
300.twolf | 2113 | 2419 | 847 | 2479 |
The peak CPU operating frequencies for all the SoCs in the table above fall within 2% of each other, making it easier to compare IPC. It’s interesting to see how close the Exynos 8895’s M2 cores are to the Snapdragon 835’s Kryo 280 cores in integer performance. Each core separates itself in a couple tests—the S835 is faster in parser (21%) and twolf (14%) while the E8895 is faster in vortex (18%)—but generally the performance differences are less than 10%.
Both the M2 core inside E8895 and the Cortex-A73 core inside S835/K960 can dispatch 4 µops/cycle; however, there are some differences between their execution pipelines. The M1 (and from what I can tell the M2) has 2 simple ALU/INT pipes for basic operations, such as additions and shifts, and 1 complex pipe for muliplication/division. The A73 has 2 complex ALU/INT pipes. While both can handle basic operations, only one ALU handles integer multiplication and multiply-accumulate operations, while the other focuses on integer division. This means the M2 and A73 can both perform 2 basic operations in parallel but cannot perform 2 of the same complex operations in parallel. The A73 can dual issue a MUL/MAC alongside a divide/add/shift, which the M2 cannot do, but the M2 can issue 2 basic operations alongside 1 complex instead of a 1/1 split for A73. Obviously, any increase in throughput resulting from these differences will be highly workload dependent.
The chart above accounts for differences in CPU frequency by dividing the estimated SPECint2000 ratio score by CPU frequency, which makes it clear to see that, in this group of tests at least, there’s no IPC difference between Galaxy S8 models running Snapdragon 835 or Exynos 8895. We also see that there’s essentially no significant difference between Kirin 960’s A73 CPU core and Snapdragon 835’s semi-custom A73 core. Otherwise, the S835/E8895 hold a 26% IPC advantage over the previous generation Snapdragon 820/821, whose fully-custom Kryo CPU performs on par with the older ARM A57 core when running integer workloads.
While the in-order A53 CPU works very well as a lower-power companion core, building octa-core A53 SoCs does not make much sense. The bigger cores provide a significant performance advantage over the A53 – the older A57 is almost twice as fast here while the A73/M2 offer 2.2x more IPC – yielding a better overall user experience when dealing with the short, bursty workloads common to smartphone use cases. And for those of you still using a phone with a Snapdragon 801 SoC and wondering if buying a new flagship phone would deliver a noticeable performance gain, the answer is yes. The Krait 400 CPU in S801 performs about the same as the A53 in these integer workloads.
Geekbench 4 - Integer Performance Single Threaded |
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Exynos 8895 (Galaxy S8) |
Snapdragon 835 (Galaxy S8) |
Snapdragon 821 (LeEco Le Pro3) |
Kirin 960 (Mate 9) |
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AES | 971.2 MB/s | 905.4 MB/s | 535.8 MB/s | 911.6 MB/s |
LZMA | 3.20 MB/s | 2.84 MB/s | 2.20 MB/s | 3.03 MB/s |
JPEG | 17.2 Mpixels/s | 16.0 Mpixels/s | 21.7 Mpixels/s | 16.1 Mpixels/s |
Canny | 29.1 Mpixels/s | 22.5 Mpixels/s | 31.2 Mpixels/s | 22.5 Mpixels/s |
Lua | 1.63 MB/s | 1.70 MB/s | 1.43 MB/s | 1.72 MB/s |
Dijkstra | 1.25 MTE/s | 1.58 MTE/s | 1.41 MTE/s | 1.53 MTE/s |
SQLite | 42.2 Krows/s | 51.2 Krows/s | 36.5 Krows/s | 51.6 Krows/s |
HTML5 Parse | 7.63 MB/s | 8.48 MB/s | 7.48 MB/s | 7.99 MB/s |
HTML5 DOM | 2.50 Melems/s | 2.18 Melems/s | 0.84 Melems/s | 2.15 Melems/s |
Histogram Equalization | 50.3 Mpixels/s | 49.9 Mpixels/s | 52.3 Mpixels/s | 48.6 Mpixels/s |
PDF Rendering | 57.4 Mpixels/s | 47.2 Mpixels/s | 53.6 Mpixels/s | 44.6 Mpixels/s |
LLVM | 231.8 functions/s | 250.1 functions/s | 164.8 functions/s | 260.4 functions/s |
Camera | 6.58 images/s | 5.47 images/s | 7.17 images/s | 5.45 images/s |
The updated Geekbench 4 workloads give us a second look at integer IPC. Once again the performance difference between the S835 and E8895 is generally between 5% to 10%, although there is a bit more variation in these tests. The E8895 pulls ahead in Canny (29%), PDF Rendering (22%), and Camera (20%), while the S835 holds the advantage in Dijkstra (26%) and SQLite (21%).
After accounting for differences in CPU frequency, the E8895’s M2 core shows a minimal 5% advantage over S835’s Kryo 280 core in the Geekbench integer suite. As expected, the S835 and Kirin 960 perform the same, with both showing a negligible gain relative to the previous generation SoCs with A72 CPU cores. The integer IPC gap between the S835 and S820/S821 narrows to only 11% in Geekbench 4. The S820/S821 is still no better than SoCs with the A57 core despite posting better results in many of the individual integer tests. Its poor performance in LLVM and HTML5 DOM account for its lower overall score.
We tested the IPC of the A53 core using two different SoCs; in the Snapdragon 625 the A53 performs 10% better than its counterpart in the Kirin 655, primarily because of the Snapdragon’s lower memory latency (in-order cores are particularly sensitive to latency). Both A53 examples still manage to outperform the S801 however, with a margin ranging from 13% to 24%.
Geekbench 4 - Floating Point Performance Single Threaded |
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Exynos 8895 (Galaxy S8) |
Snapdragon 835 (Galaxy S8) |
Snapdragon 821 (LeEco Le Pro3) |
Kirin 960 (Mate 9) |
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SGEMM | 13.4 GFLOPS | 11.0 GFLOPS | 12.2 GFLOPS | 10.5 GFLOPS |
SFFT | 4.02 GFLOPS | 2.76 GFLOPS | 3.26 GFLOPS | 2.88 GFLOPS |
N-Body Physics | 924.5 Kpairs/s | 844.5 Kpairs/s | 1183.3 Kpairs/s | 832.6 Kpairs/s |
Rigid Body Physics | 6234.9 FPS | 5941.6 FPS | 7169.6 FPS | 5879.2 FPS |
Ray Tracing | 203.7 Kpixels/s | 220.6 Kpixels/s | 297.7 Kpixels/s | 221.8 Kpixels/s |
HDR | 9.49 Mpixels/s | 8.13 Mpixels/s | 11.3 Mpixels/s | 8.10 Mpixels/s |
Gaussian Blur | 27.2 Mpixels/s | 22.2 Mpixels/s | 48.0 Mpixels/s | 23.7 Mpixels/s |
Speech Recognition | 15.3 Words/s | 13.2 Words/s | 11.5 Words/s | 12.8 Words/s |
Face Detection | 583.4 Ksubs/s | 512.4 Ksubs/s | 681.4 Ksubs/s | 497.1 Ksubs/s |
While integer IPC is essentially the same between E8895’s M2 CPU and S835’s Kryo 280, the E8895’s floating-point IPC is notably higher, surpassing the S835 in every test except Ray Tracing. Its advantage over the S835 is particularly pronounced in the SFFT (46%), SGEMM (22%), and Gaussian Blur (23%) tests. The E8895 even manages to outperform the S820/S821 at times, which still has the best overall floating-point IPC of current SoCs, taking the lead in the SGEMM, SFFT, and Speech Recognition workloads.
After taking the geometric mean of the Geekbench 4 floating-point subtest scores and dividing by CPU frequency, the E8895 holds a 17% IPC advantage over the S835. The S820/S821’s IPC is still higher than both the E8895 and S835 by 11% and 31%, respectively. The S835’s Kryo 280 CPU delivers the same floating-point performance in these workloads as the A72 and A73, with all 3 CPUs showing a minimal 3-5% advantage over the older A57. Altogether, the past 3 generations of big CPU cores only show a 35% difference in floating-point IPC in Geekbench 4.
Memory Performance
The Geekbench memory tests show some performance differences between the Galaxy S8’s two SoCs. The E8895 performs significantly better than the S835 in the Memory Copy test that uses the memcpy() routine with randomized offsets; however, the S835 delivers higher bandwidth when streaming to system memory along with a 9% lower latency figure.
Geekbench 4 - Memory Performance Single Threaded |
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Exynos 8895 (Galaxy S8) |
Snapdragon 835 (Galaxy S8) |
Snapdragon 821 (LeEco Le Pro3) |
Kirin 960 (Mate 9) |
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Memory Copy | 6.74 GB/s | 4.32 GB/s | 8.05 GB/s | 4.60 GB/s |
Memory Latency | 147.5 ns | 134.4 ns | 150.2 ns | 140.4 ns |
Memory Bandwidth | 14.95 GB/s | 16.87 GB/s | 13.93 GB/s | 17.23 GB/s |
It’s always interesting to look further back in time to see how performance has improved over several generations. In this case, the memory bandwidth test shows the biggest gains when comparing the Galaxy S8 to the Galaxy S5 (S801) and Galaxy S6 (E7420), where the older SoCs can only muster 6.95GB/s and 7.51GB/s, respectively, compared to at least 14.95GB/s for the S8 (E8895). The gains in the Memory Copy test are not as dramatic, with the Snapdragon version of the S8 (4.32GB/s) showing a small improvement over the S5 (3.98GB/s) and S6 (3.35GB/s). The transition from LPDDR3 to higher-frequency LPDDR4 DRAM along the way certainly helped boost performance, as did improvements in CPU microarchitecture (the AGUs in particular).
The S835’s Kryo 280 CPU comes with twice the L1 cache as the E8895’s M2 CPU, 64KB versus 32KB, respectively. The Kryo 280’s L1 latency remains steady at 1.28ns, the same as the A73 core in the Kirin 960, which is about 26% better than the M2’s 1.74ns latency figure. The S835 extends this same latency advantage to the L2 cache as well. The S835’s latency advantage over the E8895 shrinks to 9%, nearly matching the Geekbench 4 result, when accessing main memory at the upper limit of our own internal test.
Overall, the E8895’s M2 CPU core holds a small IPC advantage over the S835’s Kryo 280 core in floating-point workloads, but the two cores are pretty evenly matched when working with integers. There are a few specific workloads where each microarchitecture shines, but the theoretical performance difference between the Galaxy S8’s two SoC choices is not as large as expected.
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Galid - Saturday, July 29, 2017 - link
You can't compare iOS vs android but you can compare hardware, iphone 6s which is almost 2 years old still tops the charts. I'm a performance freak and always owned android phones, I despise my choice, I freaking hate myself so much.twtech - Thursday, August 3, 2017 - link
It's not the hardware that's slower. Google's choice to use Java as the primary Android platform is what makes it slower.samike_j - Tuesday, September 26, 2017 - link
i hope kotlin changes the game for android.. but i like it's versatility.. there is always an option when it comes to androidUtilityMax - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
iSheeple detectedmelgross - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
Once you use a stupid term like that, anything you say is automatically junk.pookguy88 - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
triggeredgoatfajitas - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
Yeah, Melgross is another one of those well known "Can't ever hear anything remotely negative about Apple without losing it" people.Ro_Ja - Saturday, July 29, 2017 - link
Ah, yes. Melgross is probably rejected by everyone so he spouts out such statement.Let's agree to disagree.
goatfajitas - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
What benchmarks were you looking at? I was looking at all of the ones in the article above. The S8's win alot of them including most of the batter life as well.akdj - Monday, July 31, 2017 - link
They’re showing the tests from the iPhone 7, the smaller (w/smaller battery) of the two iPhone models - if just considering the battery tests. That said, I believe the iPhone processing isn’t throttling itself. An intensive app's able to 'use' most of the available resources as others (apps) are hibernating in the background.That said ...the A10's almost a year old. The A10X in the iPad is the first 7nm fab'd SoC in the world and it SMOKES! With Apple's history, the 'alot wins for the 835' are sure to disappear.
I’m more curious in the 836 (rumored Pix2) and what it brings to the table. I’m assuming Google's taking a page from Apple's playbook and throwing some development monies at the SD836. Proprietary to Google via Qualcomm?
They’ve got it all. GPU, radios and CPU for a true SoC from a single OEM (I understand that to also be the goal of Cupertino)