The Xbox One - Mini Review & Comparison to Xbox 360/PS4by Anand Lal Shimpi on November 20, 2013 8:00 AM EST
Performance - An Update
The Chipworks PS4 teardown last week told us a lot about what’s happened between the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 in terms of hardware. It turns out that Microsoft’s silicon budget was actually a little more than Sony’s, at least for the main APU. The Xbox One APU is a 363mm^2 die, compared to 348mm^2 for the PS4’s APU. Both use a similar 8-core Jaguar CPU (2 x quad-core islands), but they feature different implementations of AMD’s Graphics Core Next GPUs. Microsoft elected to implement 12 compute units, two geometry engines and 16 ROPs, while Sony went for 18 CUs, two geometry engines and 32 ROPs. How did Sony manage to fit in more compute and ROP partitions into a smaller die area? By not including any eSRAM on-die.
While both APUs implement a 256-bit wide memory interface, Sony chose to use GDDR5 memory running at a 5.5GHz data rate. Microsoft stuck to more conventionally available DDR3 memory running at less than half the speed (2133MHz data rate). In order to make up for the bandwidth deficit, Microsoft included 32MB of eSRAM on its APU in order to alleviate some of the GPU bandwidth needs. The eSRAM is accessible in 8MB chunks, with a total of 204GB/s of bandwidth offered (102GB/s in each direction) to the memory. The eSRAM is designed for GPU access only, CPU access requires a copy to main memory.
Unlike Intel’s Crystalwell, the eSRAM isn’t a cache - instead it’s mapped to a specific address range in memory. And unlike the embedded DRAM in the Xbox 360, the eSRAM in the One can hold more than just a render target or Z-buffer. Virtually any type of GPU accessible surface/buffer type can now be stored in eSRAM (e.g. z-buffer, G-buffer, stencil buffers, shadow buffer, etc…). Developers could also choose to store things like important textures in this eSRAM as well, there’s nothing that states it needs to be one of these buffers just anything the developer finds important. It’s also possible for a single surface to be split between main memory and eSRAM.
Obviously sticking important buffers and other frequently used data here can definitely reduce demands on the memory interface, which should help Microsoft get by with only having ~68GB/s of system memory bandwidth. Microsoft has claimed publicly that actual bandwidth to the eSRAM is somewhere in the 140 - 150GB/s range, which is likely equal to the effective memory bandwidth (after overhead/efficiency losses) to the PS4’s GDDR5 memory interface. The difference being that you only get that bandwidth to your most frequently used data on the Xbox One. It’s still not clear to me what effective memory bandwidth looks like on the Xbox One, I suspect it’s still a bit lower than on the PS4, but after talking with Ryan Smith (AT’s Senior GPU Editor) I’m now wondering if memory bandwidth isn’t really the issue here.
|Microsoft Xbox One vs. Sony PlayStation 4 Spec comparison|
|Xbox 360||Xbox One||PlayStation 4|
|CPU µArch||IBM PowerPC||AMD Jaguar||AMD Jaguar|
|Shared L2 Cache||1MB||2 x 2MB||2 x 2MB|
|GCN Geometry Engines||2||2|
|Peak Shader Throughput||0.24 TFLOPS||1.31 TFLOPS||1.84 TFLOPS|
|Embedded Memory||10MB eDRAM||32MB eSRAM||-|
|Embedded Memory Bandwidth||32GB/s||102GB/s bi-directional (204GB/s total)||-|
|System Memory||512MB 1400MHz GDDR3||8GB 2133MHz DDR3||8GB 5500MHz GDDR5|
|System Memory Bus||128-bits||256-bits||256-bits|
|System Memory Bandwidth||22.4 GB/s||68.3 GB/s||176.0 GB/s|
In order to accommodate the eSRAM on die Microsoft not only had to move to a 12 CU GPU configuration, but it’s also only down to 16 ROPs (half of that of the PS4). The ROPs (render outputs/raster operations pipes) are responsible for final pixel output, and at the resolutions these consoles are targeting having 16 ROPs definitely puts the Xbox One as the odd man out in comparison to PC GPUs. Typically AMD’s GPU targeting 1080p come with 32 ROPs, which is where the PS4 is, but the Xbox One ships with half that. The difference in raw shader performance (12 CUs vs 18 CUs) can definitely creep up in games that run more complex lighting routines and other long shader programs on each pixel, but all of the more recent reports of resolution differences between Xbox One and PS4 games at launch are likely the result of being ROP bound on the One. This is probably why Microsoft claimed it saw a bigger increase in realized performance from increasing the GPU clock from 800MHz to 853MHz vs. adding two extra CUs. The ROPs operate at GPU clock, so an increase in GPU clock in a ROP bound scenario would increase performance more than adding more compute hardware.
The PS4's APU - Courtesy Chipworks
Microsoft’s admission that the Xbox One dev kits have 14 CUs does make me wonder what the Xbox One die looks like. Chipworks found that the PS4’s APU actually features 20 CUs, despite only exposing 18 to game developers. I suspect those last two are there for defect mitigation/to increase effective yields in the case of bad CUs, I wonder if the same isn’t true for the Xbox One.
At the end of the day Microsoft appears to have ended up with its GPU configuration not for silicon cost reasons, but for platform power/cost and component availability reasons. Sourcing DDR3 is much easier than sourcing high density GDDR5. Sony managed to obviously launch with a ton of GDDR5 just fine, but I can definitely understand why Microsoft would be hesitant to go down that route in the planning stages of Xbox One. To put some numbers in perspective, Sony has shipped 1 million PS4s thus far. That's 16 million GDDR5 chips, or 7.6 Petabytes of RAM. Had both Sony and Microsot tried to do this, I do wonder if GDDR5 supply would've become a problem. That's a ton of RAM in a very short period of time. The only other major consumer of GDDR5 are video cards, and the number of cards sold in the last couple of months that would ever use that RAM is a narrow list.
Microsoft will obviously have an easier time scaling its platform down over the years (eSRAM should shrink nicely at smaller geometry processes), but that’s not a concern to the end user unless Microsoft chooses to aggressively pass along cost savings.
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CubesTheGamer - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - linkYou...you are a special kind of idiot.
The PS4 has a more powerful GPU since it has more compute cores. What this means is that while Xbone has a slightly higher clock speed, there are more computer cores to do the work on PS4, so it can split up and done faster. Also, while the GPU might be able to read from both pools of memory at one time, that doesn't mean the RAM bandwidth is (60GB/s + 200GB/s) or whatever the numbers are.
Egg - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - link"Microsoft has claimed publicly that actual bandwidth to the eSRAM is somewhere in the 140 - 150GB/s range, which is likely equal to the effective memory bandwidth (after overhead/efficiency losses) to the PS4’s GDDR5 memory interface. The difference being that you only get that bandwidth to your most frequently used data on the Xbox One."
"The difference being that you only get that bandwidth to your most frequently used data on the Xbox One."
No. This is effective bandwidth to the eSRAM only after protocol overhead, nothing more.
editorsorgtfo - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - linkUhhh, no you can't... Are you serious?
bill5 - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - linkthe gpu can read both pools at once. this is a fact. you can.
period. no arguing this, it's a fact.
it's not the same as a single pool, but you can add them.
szimm - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - linkYou do realize, that telling someone they are not allowed to argue something, will only make them much more eager to do just that?
melgross - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - linkNo, you can't. Well, maybe YOU can, but the systems can't.
Owls - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - linkPlease provide some technical insight as to how you can magically add the two together to get your ridiculous throughput. We'll wait.
Or don't since you are clearly astroturfing for MS.
Wolfpup - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - linkGood grief, we've got fanbois on Anandtech too? LOL Umm..the specs are right there. One quite obviously does not "have an edge".
editorsorgtfo - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - linkAh so graphics card manufacturers can replace GDDR5 with cheap low frequency DDR3 on all of their boards and get equal/greater performance so long as they add a little chunk of SDRAM to the chip... Good to know man, thanks for that brilliant analysis. They should have come to you years ago to tap your knowledge of memory subsystems. Just think of all the money AMD and NVIDIA could have saved by doing so.
extide - Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - linkWell, in theory they can... but it would cost nVidia/AMD MORE money as the GPU die would be bigger, and thus have less shader cores. So it's not a good solution for a discreet GPU, but it IS a decent solution in SOME cases, see Crystalwell, for instance. Honestly, I would say I think the PS4's setup is better, simple and fast, versus MS's more complex setup (and they ended up with a bigger die too, lol).