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  • Gunbuster - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    I see the sky is still blue and clevo's are still chunky, plastic, and 10 years behind on any styling choices.
  • SharpEars - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    You forgot to mention that they also weigh 10 metric tons, give or take.
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    This beast is not light no, but there are lighter options available :)
  • Freakie - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    https://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP8952.html Ah yes, chunky and 10 years behind in style, and 10 metric tons!

    Clevos aren't .73 inches thick and weighing 4.2lbs while packing a GTX 1070, an i7-7700HQ, 4k (matte!) screen, 32GB of RAM, M.2 AND SATA drive, and all while retaining a LAN port, 4 USB ports, 2 mDP and 1 HDMI ports, and an S/PDIF audio-out port... such an computer from Clevo is totally inconceivable!
  • MaidoMaido - Friday, October 13, 2017 - link

    ...perhaps you mean "while packing hex-core i7-8700K desktop CPU"? Clevo does sell a number of slim form factor laptops with i7-7700HQ and even GTX 1070, but the P870/P850 is their desktop replacement line.
  • Manch - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    An X would get them sued so T-Box?
  • Flunk - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    They fulfill a need, powerful, properly cooled and durable. You are totally right about the styling, it looks almost exactly like a 10-year old ASUS gaming notebook.
  • bennyg - Tuesday, November 7, 2017 - link

    I had an Asus that long ago, glossy fingerprint magnet, blue and white all over it, a dumb bottom case with a covered over fan intake and a dumber lid LED-lit logo that caused horrible bleed into the screen.

    Clevos like this are for the adults. And at about $4k fully loaded, are the clear best in class over the $9k showpony P21X, the watercooled-but-no-faster $6k GX800, and the $4.5k still-last-century-1080p60 18 inch MSI.
  • Notmyusualid - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    And those bezels...

    So they can give you a monster like this - but can't give you an 18.4" screen?

    I priced it up for fun, and international warranty is still +$200/year.

    I'm still waiting for Alienware to make an 18.4" laptop again. I like their styling (well, its as good as expected for such beasts), and I cannot live without the global warranty.

    I really do like the 780W PSU you can get with these Clevo's though... That should make for some fine tuning fun...
  • Gigaplex - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    18.4" screens aren't popular, so it's hard to find a supplier that will produce good ones with the right specs at a reasonable price.
  • peevee - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    "The flagship P870TM replaces last year’s model, the P870KM"

    Who names their models? Probably the same person who puts 95W CPU and 300W GPU into a laptop.
  • Qwertilot - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    They don't really sell direct - instead people buy these, 'complete' them and sell them on with appropriately flashy names......

    I rather doubt if the people buying this sort of laptop are in to subtle :)
  • lazarpandar - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    I don't know why you would doubt that. Wanting a powerful laptop and wanting a flashy laptop are two completely separate desires. These things look like crap in my opinion, I'd rather it look more like a business machine and I'm not even a businessperson.
  • versesuvius - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    It is a smaller AIO, with the keyboard attached permanently to it.
  • peevee - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    I thought the same thing. These 500W monsters will last on battery ~3 minutes anyway. :) Why not just ditch the battery and make the screen bigger and call it portable AIO?
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    3 hours battery is enough for me at the coffee shop :)
  • nerd1 - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    They typically last 1-1.5hrs with battery power.
  • Notmyusualid - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    +1
  • Tams80 - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    It's always nice to have battery, should you ever need to boot up for something to do while moving it between places (for the 1.5 - 3 hours it'll last; or maybe an hour gaming), and as a backup incase power should be lost for whatever reason. I know at LAN events, of cables getting unplugged and sockets switched off.
  • willis936 - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    Laptop? Lapburn.
  • Lord of the Bored - Thursday, October 12, 2017 - link

    Let's be fair, the plastic case isn't the same effective heat-transfer device as, say, an old PowerBook G4 Titanium. Those would literally cook your lap.
  • Quantumz0d - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    Before every one start roasting these machines, think about them - they have a Z370 chipset in them, plus a fully socketed LGA CPU with an MXM modular GPU and 2x 2.5" bays (No overheating like M.2 and cheap storage) + all easily serviceable, Also the BIOS which allows you to fully control the HW inside the beast. Not to forget the Eurocom / EVOC re-sellers they have special custom sBIOS too which allows further control and maximizing the Performance PLUS you get a full Delid service with Liquid Metal TIM jobs with warranty.

    Downsides being not next day business support like Dell or the Metal Alloy build chassis, whereas the Alienware will grant you them but fully soldered components of CPU&GPU & limited storage space with unified heatsinks, these machines yes they have seperate heastsinks like the old days of Alienwares pre BGA era, The M17x SLI, M18x R1/2, M17x R3-R4, AW17, AW18.

    Choosing form over function is such a norm these days, these are the underdogs and brightest diamonds in the rough.
  • Quantumz0d - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    And I forgot to say, these are DTRs.
  • zoxo - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    Personally I own one of these beasts (an older model obviously) and they are pretty amazing workbeasts with gaming on top. Sure it's not the best choice for long train/plain rides, but they are very durable, have decent cooling, and the serviceability and upgradeability is a very nice plus.
    I don't get the styling complaint, but styling is very subjective. They tend to use very nice non-reflective, non-flashy, soft-touch plastic surfaces which I appreciate greatly.
  • Dragonstongue - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    thin as paper and light as such as well is NOT the best solution, glad some makers know this and try not to "keep up with the joneses" so what if it is larger/more heavy etc, if it has the specs cools properly and has ample hardware under the hood, that is what matters.

    Unlike pretty much every modern "flagship" smartphone where the makers decide to get rid of everything users want (such as 3.5mm jacks and FORCE mini/usb-c type) or near complete made of breakable glass.

    If I had the $, that is what I look for well made, properly cooled, easy to maintain etc etc.

    Oh yeh folks, 95w TDP is NOT 95w power consumption, so pairing up the mentioned 95w TDP CPU with a 300w TDP gpu (if properly cooled so not throttling) nothing wrong with this, sure as hell would be a problem with paper thing flexes like made of rubber designs though, and alienware lol, you must not crave actual quality in products and have a big wallet to throw around for nothing..
  • CoreLogicCom - Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - link

    Boo. Hiss. Wait until Volta and then release a refresh. I want a laptop with a 4K screen but it would be nice to have a single graphics card that stands a chance of playing games with at least high settings with high frame rates on it at that resolution.

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