Cool article, it's amazing how fast cell phones are getting now. Are they planning on releasing a version that can be run on iOS?
I know that this will probably start a flame war, but I think that's really what Android phones are competing against. There is competition between the different models, but choosing which android phone seems to be a secondary decision, after you've already made the choice not to get an iPhone. (has an iPhone4 and loves it, has played with a few android tablets but wasn't all that impressed with the UI)
BTW, the music in the video sounds like its from some bad Cinemax soft-core porno
Comparing vs the current iPhone wouldn't really be fair to the iPhone due to the processor requiring more power to push the higher resolution.
So, I'm not flamming when I say that I'm not impressed with the iPad. I haven't played with a Galaxy Tab, but for my usage other than video/gaming, I know the Galaxy Tab is better for me. I have a Galaxy S phone and the browsing experience is just better, no page refreshes and flash are really big for me. I hate, hate, hate when I open too many web pages in the iPad and it then proceeds to refresh every page that I put into the foreground. Or, when I leave the Safari Browser to do something else and it has to refresh the page.
The first, pre-HC Android tablets didn't have much to offer anyone looking to be impressed. But, Apple has a serious hole to fill if it wants to catch up to HC in terms of browsing, UI, and so many areas other than apps.
Is unfair to cheat the consumer into thinking that by buying a larger screen, he will have the same experience, but on large screen.
Who sell the large screen should warn the consumer that it is not completely functional, because do not have all the hardware necessary to use the large screen.
Quotes This thing is just a mess. It's like a tablet drunkenly hooked up with a phone, and then took the fetus swimming in a Superfund cleanup site. The browser is miserable, at least when Flash is enabled. It goes catatonic, scrolling is laggy, and it can get laughably bad.
In terms of real world usage, I thought Android`s GUI performance was more limited by lack of implementation of GPU acceleration rather than lack of performance on the part of GPUs. As such, is this GUI benchmark actually able to tell you what Android phone will feel faster/smoother in the UI?
I`m guessing despite the GUI name of the benchmark, it`s still more of a measure of hypothetical raw GPU performance than GUI performance experienced by the end-user.
"It`s still more of a measure of hypothetical raw GPU performance than GUI performance experienced by the end-user."
That's actually exactly how I would characterize BaseMark GUI. RightWare's using "GUI" in the name because they're using their own Kanzi tool's UIs (which they believe are similar to possible future 3D user interfaces), but to that extent it's primarily a 3D benchmark which is why we're interested.
Not knowing who they get their test phones from (carrier, manufacturer, or both depending on circumstance) they just might not have any Verizon or Motorola phones around anymore. Though that should really be remedied to have a TI SoC or two in tests like this.
Could it be possible that the tests the Adreno 205 pulls ahead with are ones where the additions Qualcomm has made to the Scorpion CPU help it out over a standard A8?
Since this is a GUI test, I suspect that is the case. Only specific functions can be run on the GPU, for most of the more complicated GUI work, the CPU is generally used.
strikeback03 has it exactly right - currently we're sampled by carriers, and most if not all of the time they want their devices back about a month after launch. Unfortunately, the result is that for tests like these that are new, we don't have much we can do other than test everything we have and try to snag older devices for comparison.
It's one of the things we're still working (a lot) on making better. :)
poor EVO... 6 months old and already bottom of the barrel. graphics are good enough for me but then i don't use it for gaming. Hopefully something with Tegra 2 is available this summer (upgrade every year with Sprint Premiere perks).
...that the Adreno 205 was a tile-based renderer. I thought only PowerVR offered those. Still, you learn something new everyday. :)
I also found out that AMD owned what is now the Adreno line until they sold it off to Qualcomm in 2008. I bet they're kicking themselves, especially considering they were good products even back then.
Hmm...this seems like a weak excuse. Seriously, you guys couldn't procure ANY OMAP-based devices? NONE? I would think that at the very least someone on the staff would own one.
This does explain why all the Droid X benchmarks are with Android 2.1, though.
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QChronoD - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
Cool article, it's amazing how fast cell phones are getting now.Are they planning on releasing a version that can be run on iOS?
I know that this will probably start a flame war, but I think that's really what Android phones are competing against. There is competition between the different models, but choosing which android phone seems to be a secondary decision, after you've already made the choice not to get an iPhone.
(has an iPhone4 and loves it, has played with a few android tablets but wasn't all that impressed with the UI)
BTW, the music in the video sounds like its from some bad Cinemax soft-core porno
alovell83 - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
Comparing vs the current iPhone wouldn't really be fair to the iPhone due to the processor requiring more power to push the higher resolution.So, I'm not flamming when I say that I'm not impressed with the iPad. I haven't played with a Galaxy Tab, but for my usage other than video/gaming, I know the Galaxy Tab is better for me. I have a Galaxy S phone and the browsing experience is just better, no page refreshes and flash are really big for me. I hate, hate, hate when I open too many web pages in the iPad and it then proceeds to refresh every page that I put into the foreground. Or, when I leave the Safari Browser to do something else and it has to refresh the page.
The first, pre-HC Android tablets didn't have much to offer anyone looking to be impressed. But, Apple has a serious hole to fill if it wants to catch up to HC in terms of browsing, UI, and so many areas other than apps.
marraco - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
Is unfair to cheat the consumer into thinking that by buying a larger screen, he will have the same experience, but on large screen.Who sell the large screen should warn the consumer that it is not completely functional, because do not have all the hardware necessary to use the large screen.
MySchizoBuddy - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
Galaxy Tab review a Pocketable train wreck on Gizmodohttp://gizmodo.com/5686161/samsung-galaxy-tab-revi...
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This thing is just a mess. It's like a tablet drunkenly hooked up with a phone, and then took the fetus swimming in a Superfund cleanup site. The browser is miserable, at least when Flash is enabled. It goes catatonic, scrolling is laggy, and it can get laughably bad.
abrar - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
isnt it available for public use ? i wanted to test my device ;)abrar - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
How can one subscribe to comments in anandt. articles ?ltcommanderdata - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
In terms of real world usage, I thought Android`s GUI performance was more limited by lack of implementation of GPU acceleration rather than lack of performance on the part of GPUs. As such, is this GUI benchmark actually able to tell you what Android phone will feel faster/smoother in the UI?I`m guessing despite the GUI name of the benchmark, it`s still more of a measure of hypothetical raw GPU performance than GUI performance experienced by the end-user.
Brian Klug - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
"It`s still more of a measure of hypothetical raw GPU performance than GUI performance experienced by the end-user."That's actually exactly how I would characterize BaseMark GUI. RightWare's using "GUI" in the name because they're using their own Kanzi tool's UIs (which they believe are similar to possible future 3D user interfaces), but to that extent it's primarily a 3D benchmark which is why we're interested.
-Brian
TareX - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
Things are looking good for the PSP phone, which has the G2's same SoC....thornburg - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
The distinct lack of Verizon's "Droid" phones, such as Droid 2 and Droid X is a bit disturbing.In fact, there are no Verizon phones at all included in this. Why is that? Actually, aren't these phones only from Sprint and T-Mobile?
Some kind of carrier bias by AT?
strikeback03 - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
Not knowing who they get their test phones from (carrier, manufacturer, or both depending on circumstance) they just might not have any Verizon or Motorola phones around anymore. Though that should really be remedied to have a TI SoC or two in tests like this.Could it be possible that the tests the Adreno 205 pulls ahead with are ones where the additions Qualcomm has made to the Scorpion CPU help it out over a standard A8?
metafor - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
Since this is a GUI test, I suspect that is the case. Only specific functions can be run on the GPU, for most of the more complicated GUI work, the CPU is generally used.But I'd need to know more details about the test.
Brian Klug - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
thornburg,strikeback03 has it exactly right - currently we're sampled by carriers, and most if not all of the time they want their devices back about a month after launch. Unfortunately, the result is that for tests like these that are new, we don't have much we can do other than test everything we have and try to snag older devices for comparison.
It's one of the things we're still working (a lot) on making better. :)
-Brian
DaFox - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
I loved the music in that video. I had just left it open while it played out in the background.rsj56 - Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - link
agreed! wonder what/who the title/artist is...Mr Perfect - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
Fascinating, Captain.austonia - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
poor EVO... 6 months old and already bottom of the barrel. graphics are good enough for me but then i don't use it for gaming. Hopefully something with Tegra 2 is available this summer (upgrade every year with Sprint Premiere perks).silverblue - Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - link
...that the Adreno 205 was a tile-based renderer. I thought only PowerVR offered those. Still, you learn something new everyday. :)I also found out that AMD owned what is now the Adreno line until they sold it off to Qualcomm in 2008. I bet they're kicking themselves, especially considering they were good products even back then.
Huulio - Thursday, January 13, 2011 - link
I think it is more about benchmarking the whole system; GPU, CPU and disk performance in all together.Anyway it looks very nice :)
Loki7T1 - Thursday, February 3, 2011 - link
Hmm...this seems like a weak excuse. Seriously, you guys couldn't procure ANY OMAP-based devices? NONE? I would think that at the very least someone on the staff would own one.This does explain why all the Droid X benchmarks are with Android 2.1, though.
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