Performance wise, they will be the same as core i parts with the same clockspeed, (it's the same die after all). The biggest reason is the ECC support, and the OEM Validated environment that they provide.
Yeah, this is what I'm waiting to see. GT3e is adequate, but GT4e should be up in 940m/950m territory. Too bad this likely means there will be very few GT4e machines for less than $1500.
Surely you'll accept FirePro as well. Besides the integrated GPUs won't be for the same work the dedicated ones are. Ever heard of GPU switching? Macs do it best, but Windows can do it as well, with Optimus for instance. (That's not bias even though I am an Apple person. At least I don't think so. I try to see both angles) And a Pro Macbook Pro? Nice!
For desktop, that entirely depends on the application, where AMD offers some extremely powerful alternatives to Quadro. For mobile, I agree, as AMD has has virtually no modern notebook workstation GPUs (nothing Hawaii, Tonga, or Fiji-based). Even though NVIDIA has a lot of Kepler mobile products, there's still no mobile Maxwell Quadro part. Meh.
AMD has mobile FirePro versions of the Radeon 2xx series, but for whatever reason, the NVIDIA name commands much higher margins in the professional space so HP and Lenovo don't even offer AMD and Dell's website strongly promotes the Quadros.
NVIDIA commands higher margins because mobile Kepler is simply better at this moment.
The best mobile FirePro offered is the M6100 - cut down Bonaire. It is not a 200-series equivalent. There is a mobile Tonga (M295X/M385), but it is configured as a gaming card, not optimized for professional software. So far, they have not offered up a mobile Tonga-based FirePro. If they did, it would likely obliterate NVIDIA's current top of the line K5100M.
Very interested myself. Looks like Xeon powered, thin mobile workstations are going to be the next big thing for professionals in a couple of years, while ULV will be dominating the mainstream.
That's why he's asking if it's in the Xeons. Would've asked that myself.
@Ian: please try to squeeze some official information from Intel regarding AVX-512, if you get the next chance. Will there be an i7 6700 equivalent Xeon which has it?
These are not skylake, but broadwell. I would assume that once skylake ones come out, that they would include it, yes. That is, if that feature exists in the die they are using, which is probably the same one as the desktop E3 -- so yeah I would think so.
That's an interesting concept, bringing a server grade CPU to laptops. Apparently, the flagship i7s are not powerful enough for them, which I find interesting.
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Computer Bottleneck - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
Glad to see this happening.Looking forward to more details.
Chaitanya - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
That's quite interesting addition. I would like to see some reviews comparing with equivalent Core ix before making purchase for office.extide - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
Performance wise, they will be the same as core i parts with the same clockspeed, (it's the same die after all). The biggest reason is the ECC support, and the OEM Validated environment that they provide.witeken - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
According to leaked slide, there will be a SKU with GT4e.https://twitter.com/thesoulfate/status/59660056565...
nathanddrews - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
Yeah, this is what I'm waiting to see. GT3e is adequate, but GT4e should be up in 940m/950m territory. Too bad this likely means there will be very few GT4e machines for less than $1500.HighTech4US - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
It is not a workstation unless it has a Nvidia Quadro inside.casperes1996 - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
Surely you'll accept FirePro as well. Besides the integrated GPUs won't be for the same work the dedicated ones are. Ever heard of GPU switching? Macs do it best, but Windows can do it as well, with Optimus for instance. (That's not bias even though I am an Apple person. At least I don't think so. I try to see both angles)And a Pro Macbook Pro? Nice!
nathanddrews - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
For desktop, that entirely depends on the application, where AMD offers some extremely powerful alternatives to Quadro. For mobile, I agree, as AMD has has virtually no modern notebook workstation GPUs (nothing Hawaii, Tonga, or Fiji-based). Even though NVIDIA has a lot of Kepler mobile products, there's still no mobile Maxwell Quadro part. Meh.I suspect that Intel is about to take the low-mid mobile workstation market by storm:
http://aecmag.com/technology-mainmenu-35/911-intel...
nathanddrews - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
P.S. The above link is about Intel's desktop Iris Pro aspirations, but it should trickle down to the mobile Xeons as well.UberHamburgler - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
AMD has mobile FirePro versions of the Radeon 2xx series, but for whatever reason, the NVIDIA name commands much higher margins in the professional space so HP and Lenovo don't even offer AMD and Dell's website strongly promotes the Quadros.nathanddrews - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
NVIDIA commands higher margins because mobile Kepler is simply better at this moment.The best mobile FirePro offered is the M6100 - cut down Bonaire. It is not a 200-series equivalent. There is a mobile Tonga (M295X/M385), but it is configured as a gaming card, not optimized for professional software. So far, they have not offered up a mobile Tonga-based FirePro. If they did, it would likely obliterate NVIDIA's current top of the line K5100M.
MrSpadge - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
Not all people's work is about graphics. That's what Powerpoint & Origin are for once the real work is done.Flunk - Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - link
If you're paying for Quadros on your own dollar I feel sorry for you. I just hack the drivers on Geforces.lilmoe - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
Very interested myself. Looks like Xeon powered, thin mobile workstations are going to be the next big thing for professionals in a couple of years, while ULV will be dominating the mainstream.sashabaw - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
This is for the iPad Pro, described here: http://seekingalpha.com/article/3410506-micron-fea...hpvd - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
so will this support AVX3 / AVX512 like other skylake xeons should do ??hpvd - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
this latest addition to AVX versions would not be available in consumer variants anymore...MrSpadge - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
That's why he's asking if it's in the Xeons. Would've asked that myself.@Ian: please try to squeeze some official information from Intel regarding AVX-512, if you get the next chance. Will there be an i7 6700 equivalent Xeon which has it?
extide - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
These are not skylake, but broadwell. I would assume that once skylake ones come out, that they would include it, yes. That is, if that feature exists in the die they are using, which is probably the same one as the desktop E3 -- so yeah I would think so.hpvd - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
following the headline of this article, this are already skylakes :-)RU482 - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
v2= ivy bridgev3 = haswell
v4 = broadwell
v5 = skylake
extide - Monday, August 10, 2015 - link
Oh, right, I got tripped up by the difference between the core i versioning and the Xeon versioning, which is off by one.Core i 5th gen = broadwell, but Xeon v5 is Skylake. Doh!
adithyay328 - Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - link
That's an interesting concept, bringing a server grade CPU to laptops. Apparently, the flagship i7s are not powerful enough for them, which I find interesting.